Naturally.Naughty

[italiaano]

I saw he had good rep here andhe was offering exchange ukash to LR so i gave it a shot.

I had two different vouchers of 500 SEK each so 1000SEK in total , around 130 USD

Since he only accepted voucher value in GBP i tried to exchange the vouchers to gbp, but ukash site was down for me, so i called ukash customer service to ask if its ok, that he exchange the voucher from UK and they said no problem.

Now i give this guy the first voucher and he says he need both since he needs to combine them, i get little bit suspicius, but since he has good rep and everything i go ahead- After giving him second voucher he says that he received error message that is suspicius transaction and that ukash refused it,

So then if he would telling me the truth, means one of the vouchers should be alive right?

Both vouchers dead,and hego offline right after that,not responding anymore.














[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:40:47 PM] turnisi: hello, can u exchange ukash to lr?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:42:08 PM] naturally naughty:
yes

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:42:31 PM] turnisi: i have 1000 SEKukash how much LR willugive me forthat?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:43:33 PM] turnisi: are u there sir?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:44:09 PM] naturally naughty:
what is sek ?

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:44:29 PM] turnisi: Swedish Krona sir, Sweden
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:45:31 PM] naturally naughty:
u can convert it to gbp on ukash site first then i can exchange

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:46:24 PM] turnisi: ok i will check now
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:47:55 PM] turnisi: it will get around 98 pound, how much can u give me for that sir?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:48:21 PM] naturally naughty:
115 lr

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:48:31 PM] turnisi: ok wait i will do conversion now
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:48:36 PM] naturally naughty:
ok

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:52:28 PM] naturally naughty:
ok

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:53:11 PM] turnisi: i cannot go in to the manage ukash area i gett errormessage
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:53:27 PM] turnisi: im trying sir
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:53:30 PM] naturally naughty:
u need to open up account

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:53:45 PM] turnisi: Server Error in '/' Application.
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:53:54 PM] turnisi: i have account
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:54:00 PM] turnisi: but i get this message
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:54:13 PM] naturally naughty:
refresh see if logged in

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:56:34 PM] turnisi: i get same message
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:56:47 PM] turnisi: i tried now to login from google crome and explorer
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:56:57 PM] turnisi: see if u can get the exchange page sir?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:57:06 PM] naturally naughty:
u can call ukash they can do over fone if u have receipt

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:57:50 PM] naturally naughty:
ok 4 me

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:57:49 PM] turnisi: can u see if u can get to the conversion page?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:58:07 PM] turnisi: cani not give u the voucher and then u exchange it?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:58:23 PM] naturally naughty:
no as i have acc registered in uk

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:58:27 PM] naturally naughty:
it wont work

[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:58:52 PM] turnisi: wait iwill try to find ukash number and call them
[Wed Feb 20 2013 06:59:10 PM] naturally naughty:
ok shud be on site r receipt

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:02:54 PM] turnisi: ok i will call ukash uk customerservice now
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:03:10 PM] naturally naughty:
ok

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:03:22 PM] naturally naughty:
do u have receipt ?

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:03:38 PM] turnisi: yes
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:13:14 PM] turnisi: i called them talkedwith them until now, they told me they cannot convert it by phone
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:13:27 PM] turnisi: i dont know sir real messy shit
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:13:38 PM] naturally naughty:
so what did they advise you to do

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:13:54 PM] naturally naughty:
maybe try open a newaccount

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:14:25 PM] turnisi: yes iwilltry that now
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:14:32 PM] naturally naughty:
ok

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:14:38 PM] turnisi: are u sure u cannot convert it?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:14:50 PM] turnisi: i think u can, regardless of whatcountry u are in
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:14:57 PM] naturally naughty:
if i try it might come up as fraud and make voucher invalid

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:15:24 PM] turnisi: call them and ask?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:15:57 PM] naturally naughty:
you can call and ask if you gave code to someone in uk if they can convert it on uk site

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:25:45 PM] naturally naughty:
?

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:29:26 PM] turnisi: ok i will give ufirst voucher andthen exchange it ok?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:29:41 PM] naturally naughty:
u spoke with them ?

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:30:23 PM] turnisi: no but it wont be a problem i done it before, or do u want me to call them again?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:30:57 PM] naturally naughty:
i would ask them first otherwise maybe me trying will kill the code

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:31:13 PM] turnisi: ok i call them again now
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:34:43 PM] turnisi: they say its ok
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:34:51 PM] naturally naughty:
ok

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:34:59 PM] turnisi: taake the first voucher
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:35:05 PM] naturally naughty:
yes

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:35:31 PM] turnisi: 63371803595646330XX 500 sek
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:35:39 PM] naturally naughty:
value

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:35:45 PM] turnisi: 500 sek
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:39:23 PM] naturally naughty:
ok send other so i can combine

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:39:41 PM] turnisi: please sir, can u exchange this first
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:39:49 PM] turnisi: and then the other, if its ok for u?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:40:11 PM] naturally naughty:
no need to combine togethar first

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:40:30 PM] turnisi: but only exchange this one then
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:40:46 PM] naturally naughty:
then you will not get such good rate on exchage

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:40:59 PM] naturally naughty:
the reason i gave u good rate was thought was one code for ammount

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:41:34 PM] turnisi: ok but if u exchange two vouchers of 500 sek each
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:41:41 PM] turnisi: how much lr will ireceive
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:42:05 PM] turnisi: i want to do business regularly
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:42:12 PM] naturally naughty:
you dont i need to combine them to one voucher then i can exchange as method i use needs be 1 code if you understand

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:42:27 PM] turnisi: yes i understand sir
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:42:42 PM] turnisi: but, please understand that is first time we do business
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:08 PM] naturally naughty:
yes and minimum exchange is 75 gbp

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:12 PM] naturally naughty:
1 code is not this ammount

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:28 PM] turnisi: ok i hope u not ripper
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:37 PM] naturally naughty:
bro serious

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:46 PM] naturally naughty:
u found me not me find you

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:56 PM] naturally naughty:
what forum you from ?

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:43:59 PM] turnisi: please send me your thread again
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:44:13 PM] naturally naughty:
wich thread

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:44:18 PM] turnisi: in carder.pro
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:44:29 PM] naturally naughty:
i have many easy for u to find

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:46:04 PM] turnisi: ok then
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:46:30 PM] turnisi: 63371803586817700XX
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:46:34 PM] turnisi: 500 sek
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:46:41 PM] turnisi: lets see if u are da man
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:47:56 PM] naturally naughty:
There has been an Error:
Your transaction was identified as suspicous and can't be completed.

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:48:18 PM] turnisi: so u ripped me
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:48:29 PM] turnisi: i spoke with ukash customer service
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:48:32 PM] naturally naughty:
wtf ill take screen of ukash site

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:48:37 PM] turnisi: and they said everything ok
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:48:49 PM] naturally naughty:
i will take screen shot

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:49:00 PM] turnisi: ok send me screen
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:49:45 PM] naturally naughty:
wont let me send file i will up to sendspace 1 sec

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:50:09 PM] naturally naughty:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/45wnj6

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:50:16 PM] turnisi: sothen it means voucherstill good
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:50:29 PM] naturally naughty:
maybe it kill it

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:51:15 PM] turnisi: its impossible,please just putt screen shot on tinypic
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:51:34 PM] naturally naughty:
i just sent u link

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:51:38 PM] naturally naughty:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/45wnj6

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:51:51 PM] turnisi: but i cannot see nothing, just put on tinypic please?
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:52:51 PM] naturally naughty:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/a6hzq0

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:52:53 PM] naturally naughty:
try this one

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:53:14 PM] turnisi: bro just put on tinypic
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:53:19 PM] turnisi: it takes1 second
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:53:24 PM] naturally naughty:
i made image bigger

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:54:19 PM] turnisi: can u please put on tinypic
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:54:36 PM] naturally naughty:
http://i48.tinypic.com/2mrglna.jpg

[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:56:01 PM] turnisi: and what about the first voucher
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:57:09 PM] turnisi: what about the first voucher ??
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:57:09 PM] naturally naughty: naturally naughty is unable to receive offline IMs.
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:57:24 PM] turnisi: i reporting u as ripper now
[Wed Feb 20 2013 07:57:24 PM] naturally naughty: naturally naughty is unable to receive offline IMs.

 

[bensmith588]

I've had a similar scenario with this Ripper which I am waiting to be resolved with Ninja.
See Here
http://carder.pro/showthread.php?t=76562
http://carder.pro/showthread.php?t=76562

Refuses to complete deals after 45 days as well as Pay his debts.

popcorn

Don't worry bro, just be patient, our cases will be solved soon.

p.s I find it funny that I have never had a Blacklist report against me, But this member now has three against him.

 

[Naturally.Naughty]

showed him proof from screen shot that they got refused

 

[italiaano]

yes u showed "proof" but it was 2 different vouchers, so u must have typen one of them first right? if that one got refused then the other one should work, since it was 2 different vouchers... so why both dead? and why u go offline as soon as i gave u both voucher codes?

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and i think ur proof was only a photoshopped page that u pasted that red message in... because as i said before, i gave u two different vouchers, and if u got the message on first voucher that u typed in to exchange, then the second voucher would still work right? so why are both vouchers dead?

 

[Naturally.Naughty]

read the code and time frame i sent u it impossible to shop in that ammount of time

 

[italiaano]

why u not answer the question??? why is both vouchers dead??? and why did u insist to give u the second voucher, u was anyway have to convert one voucher at time.. isnt that true??

 

[God]

and why u go offline as soon as i gave u both voucher codes?

Thats how usually rippers acts.
Naturally.Naughty
My advice is to cooperate with that person and find way to solve that problem.
otherwise itll be ur end.

 

[Naturally.Naughty]

i explained to him before if i tried then maybe it will kill the codes , wich it did

 

[dolus]

I am in no way claiming ripper, and i don't know if this should be in its own thread but it makes sense for one thread per potential "ripper".

I PM Naturally.Naughty on 5th Feb about exchanging gbp ukash and he says he happy to do it and once checked would be in my LR in 2-5 minutes.

I sent him a ukash code. Never heard anything from him until i kept chasing him up about it. He claimed the code was invalid and i was wasting his time. i got the ukash myself and the code had never been used until i gave it to him, but if it was invalid i understand why it may look like i wasting time.

I apologised and gave him a different code and he came back and said exact same thing that it was invalid and threatened he'd give me neg rep if i waste his time again.

I have had this experience from ukash rippers before, but i always reserve judgement until evidence come through.

I have emailed ukash with both codes and they will tell me what date they were used on. If they come back saying first was used on or after 6th Feb and second on or after 14th Feb then I have no choice but to assume they worked and I was ripped. I haven't told them what dates they were used so if they give me those dates then it is suspicious.

but i reserve judgement until ukash reply to me.

 

[bensmith588]

wow 4th Complaint against this Member.

I'm glad people are speaking out against this Member.

He is a clear Ripper